*It Begins As It Will End*I will post this paragraph at the beginning and at the end of this journal so that it is both the first and last thing that people read in this journal. I don't believe her "unbearable bullshit" but I imagine those looking for any excuse they can find to believe her will. I challenge Carrie Leigh to make a statement denying that "unbearable bullshit" made any money from subscriptions and contest monies. I challenge Carrie Leigh to make a statement denying that unbearable bullshit is or has never been something along the lines of a "Director" of a company or corporation associated with "Carrie Leigh's Nude Magazine". I challenge Carrie Leigh to publish here on deviantART copies of official documentation that show exactly who the "Board Of Directors" etc are for "Carrie Leigh's Nude Magazine". And should you actually publish them and do anything but ignore me, if those documents have been altered in any way shape or form I and others who I will refer them to in document fraud analysis WILL KNOW IT
Carrie Leigh can be found on deviantART at these links -
!Carrieleighsnude and
#CarrieLeighNUDEsiteGo there, comment and or note those pages asking them to address my challenge, ask them to refund all monies to all parties
NB: You will of course notice that the deviantART Group
#CarrieLeighNUDEsite has both founder and co founder as a very unbearable person, with Carrie Leigh nowhere in site
*Ease and Availability of Truth*When someone has done nothing wrong and is telling the truth it doesn't take two weeks for it to eventually come out. When someone is in the right and honest it doesn't take dozens of people noting them to put pressure on them to respond before they tell the "supposed" truth. When someone is being honest and is clear of any wrong doing the truth comes in detail and it comes immediately. It doesn't need to be pondered and agonised over for weeks before it's finally published
When a person is being truthful they don't accuse me of having deleted most of my original post when questioned. It is there now and has always been there, it's called more than one journal entry. The standard liars mistake has been made here. Most people when they lie at first distract, deny and avoid. Step two is to admit to a more minor thing and accompany it with even more denial and always use counter accusations. That aptly describes all her behavior so far
When a person is being truthful they don't avoid the issue over and over. When a person is being truthful they don't distract from the issue by calling someone a misogynist or creating some blatant fantasy about me contacting a vet I have never even spoken to or approached, let alone twist that pack of lies by telling me to leave the vet alone, OH PLEASE !!!!!
*Not Only on deviantART *deviantART is not the first place this issue was raised, one other site this subject has been discussed extensively on is a networking site called Model Mayhem. On Model Mayhem there are many Photographers and Models that entered the competition I speak of and never got refunds, there are also many Photographers and Models that paid for subscriptions that were never ever sent. On Model Mayhem "Carrie Leigh's Nude Magazine" is full of unbearable bullshit and has been reported to the USA government for mail fraud and reported to paypal for on-line scams
*But Don't Believe Me*Here is a link to the forum thread on Model Mayhem -
[link]In this forum she speaks wholly and solely on the Magazines behalf, often stating "We" the most notable post in this thread is by the unbearable liar herself
"We have stated that refunds will be sent, so what is the problem with these people??? The problem is that no refunds were sent, NONE, that's the problem you refund promising, lying unbearable scammer
So look at that, right in the middle of page 4 she states that refunds will be sent, she says "we" when she speaks of the Magazine. She nominates herself in that statement as someone to address for a refund, she nominates herself in that statement as someone to whom a lack of refund should be reported, she nominates herself in that statement as someone much more involved in the Magazine than an editorial contribution. And hey delete your forum comments if you can, I have screen shots
And with you promising refunds in that forum I believe I have you at checkmate, game set match motherfucker !!!!!*Even More Scammed Artists*Let's list all the people who have stated publicly they had no money refunded for the competition or a subscription, I will at this stage only list those who have stated something publicly or allowed me to use their name as a result of private correspondence. Other artists complain about unethical / unprofessional practices involving everything from publishing promises unfulfilled to being published without consent or knowledge
V Laroche
Michael Cordiez
Excelsior Photography
Shoot Bare
Stephen Thorne
Silvery Stars
John Horwitz
the g8keeper (Michael Armstrong)
Kurt Krueger
Dwinge Photography
Greg Easton Photography
David Lee Woods
Thornton Harris
J M Dean
Maxx Images
Curtis Wood
Cherry Stone
Keeling
Fleming Design
Laura Unbound
D S P
Jhono Bashian
Some notable quotes from the Model Mayhem forum:
Michael Cordiez: "I paid for a 2yr subscription a few years back. Received only one issue. Had only limited success at getting anyone at the magazine to answer emails. Was promised that the magazines would be sent, but nothing ever arrived"
Excelsior Photography: "I took out a subscription last year and never received an issue"
John Horwitz: "If you take the money - deliver the product"
Shoot Bare: "Can't even ask for a refund as the only answer you get from anyone is the thanks for your money note!!! Everything else bounces back!! So frustrating!!"
Greg Easton Photography: "It's just mail fraud. Plain old, legally actionable mail fraud.
Contact the Federal Trade Commission. They have an online form you can fill out" -
[link]David Lee Woods: "About two years ago I paid for a two year subscription and received one or two issues. Took me six months before I realized I had not gotten a recent issue.
In spite of it being so long, I would really like to get my money back"
Maxx Images: "I'm in the same boat subscribed last year, 2 copies of a back issue. Pretty sad if Ms. Leigh is still taking money for something that not existed for at least a year."
"she has been collecting subscription money for 1-2 years without providing a product"
Curtis Wood: "they got my money years ago, still waiting for my first copy"
J M Dean: "It amazes me how they can come out of nowhere when someone complains about not getting what they paid for"
Fleming Design: "Unbearable, do you think Carrie Leigh is so special in some way that she should be allowed to just keep the subscription money or do you think that she should face criminal charges, like anyone else would, if refunds are not made? Mail fraud was mentioned earlier."
Laura Unbound to Unbearable Bullshit: "Spend the next two years walking into stores, picking up items, taking to the counter and paying for them, and then leaving them there as you walk out. Then come back and tell us how it's just not nice to the companies that sold you those items to bring to light that you never actually got what you paid for.
"oh, poor Carrie Leigh, you're all being so mean!" - its very simple. If they never wanted to be questioned or attacked or to make people upset with them, they should have either sent the items the people paid for, or taken the "buy a magazine!" button off their website the minute the printers stopped printing new copies. You don't just go "oops, I just kept taking your money! My bad." and wait until someone makes a public stink about it to finally make a statement about what you did. The fact that she didn't put on her website until after this happened that she was closing a magazine that was already two years gone shows that until someone was going to publicly say something, the whole scam would have continued, people would have kept losing their money."
D S P: "If Summer 2010 was the last issue printed, taking subscriptions in the spring of 2012 is wrong."
Keeling:"Shit happens is not a good enough excuse when you've been accepting payment for two years for a product that does not exist."
*Predictably Unbearable Crap*And what do her responses in the forum add up too, well she calls people "misogynists" she denies, contradicts herself, threatens legal action, posts a link to an article about rape that has nothing to do with the topic or the people involved, never answers 90% of what is asked directly of her and denies denies denies. Basically the same formula of unbearable bullshit she has gone on with here
In the forum she blames everything from the recession to misogyny for the magazine closing. But says one other thing I find very important, "Carrie Leigh's Nude Magazine" has a 2.6 million dollar printing press laying idle, well if you can spend 2.6 million dollars on a printing press you can refund money for competitions that were never run and subscriptions that were never delivered
*Evidence*How much do I actually have to present (yes more will be forthcoming anyway) but really how much more needs to be revealed. I have links, names, a timeline, her own words where she promises refunds, dozens of people in the same artistic field publicly saying the same things
All she has is denial, no links, no documents no evidence, no testimony from others, she has nothing except to distract, deny and try to avoid the topic
So keep writing your pseudo intellectual circa World War One styled lies and I will always be able refute them with actual evidence and proof and challenges that you and Carrie Leigh will never meet
*For Entertainment Value*On a different note my new friend
~ivanlight has some great creative journals of his own about a character he calls "XX" go check them out:
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*It Ends As It Began*I will post this paragraph at the beginning and at the end of this journal so that it is both the first and last thing that people read in this journal. I don't believe her "unbearable bullshit" but I imagine those looking for any excuse they can find to believe her will. I challenge Carrie Leigh to make a statement denying that unbearable bullshit made any money from subscriptions and contest monies. I challenge Carrie Leigh to make a statement denying that "unbearable bullshit" is or has never been something along the lines of a "Director" of a company or corporation associated with "Carrie Leigh's Nude Magazine". I challenge Carrie Leigh to publish here on deviantART copies of official documentation that show exactly who the "Board Of Directors" etc are for "Carrie Leigh's Nude Magazine". And should you actually publish them and do anything but ignore me, if those documents have been altered in any way shape or form I and others who I will refer them to in document fraud analysis WILL KNOW IT
Carrie Leigh can be found on deviantART at these links -
!Carrieleighsnude and
#CarrieLeighNUDEsiteGo there, comment and or note those pages asking them to address my challenge, ask them to refund all monies to all parties
NB: To report mail fraud in the United States of America follow this -
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